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	<title>Comments on: Stephen Timms MP is set to become the new Communications Minister</title>
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		<title>By: Lindsey Annison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lindsey Annison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jason The returns have NO reason to go into private enterprise. That is Telco 1.0 thinking and long out of date. There are more than enough community projects in EU and beyond that show how the pounds can stay within the community/area/region without going to private enterprise (look up &#039;blue pound&#039;). And why any of us would even consider trusting the telcos to get FTTH and nextgen right...well....

The public interest DOES need fibre, and you only need look up some of the fab telehealth, education and e-gov type services that countries like Estonia, Sweden, Norway, Holland, Canada, Korea etc have deployed to get IT. And it won&#039;t be a profit centre for private sector if we ignore them and deploy SUSTAINABLE business models within communities.

Whoever you are, please catch up with current thinking. Try a Telco 2.0 conference for starters, the COTS Colloquium in Hull on 3rd Sept, or talking to many of those in grassroots up through industry and government who have got it. Please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jason The returns have NO reason to go into private enterprise. That is Telco 1.0 thinking and long out of date. There are more than enough community projects in EU and beyond that show how the pounds can stay within the community/area/region without going to private enterprise (look up &#8216;blue pound&#8217;). And why any of us would even consider trusting the telcos to get FTTH and nextgen right&#8230;well&#8230;.</p>
<p>The public interest DOES need fibre, and you only need look up some of the fab telehealth, education and e-gov type services that countries like Estonia, Sweden, Norway, Holland, Canada, Korea etc have deployed to get IT. And it won&#8217;t be a profit centre for private sector if we ignore them and deploy SUSTAINABLE business models within communities.</p>
<p>Whoever you are, please catch up with current thinking. Try a Telco 2.0 conference for starters, the COTS Colloquium in Hull on 3rd Sept, or talking to many of those in grassroots up through industry and government who have got it. Please.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Clifford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 07:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a limit to how much public investment can reasonably be justified in this as the returns from the investment will all go to private enterprise. 

The public interest does not need fibre. Access to public services via the internet doesn&#039;t require very high speeds. 

It&#039;s a private luxury and a profit centre for private enterprise therefore the only right source of investment is that same private sector.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a limit to how much public investment can reasonably be justified in this as the returns from the investment will all go to private enterprise. </p>
<p>The public interest does not need fibre. Access to public services via the internet doesn&#8217;t require very high speeds. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a private luxury and a profit centre for private enterprise therefore the only right source of investment is that same private sector.</p>
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		<title>By: cyberdoyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>cyberdoyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 20:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yep, he has a tough job on, I agree, the main job is to get fibre lit everywhere, and the best way of kicking it off is to cut the tax on it, thus saving more than the £6 levy in one fell swoop and getting the digital economy moving quickly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yep, he has a tough job on, I agree, the main job is to get fibre lit everywhere, and the best way of kicking it off is to cut the tax on it, thus saving more than the £6 levy in one fell swoop and getting the digital economy moving quickly.</p>
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